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It's NOT a good day to die...

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 2:36 pm
by Legacy
I've picked up Firefight for the first time in a little while, and my first real session playing with the fractal terrain, and am defending as China. My line is long, set up in an inverted wedge of sorts, with a long, shallow angle on my left flank, and a sharp, short right. They made contact with my left wing and began firing at about the one minute mark. The exchange of fire picked up quickly, and worsened once the enemy started rolling along that angled left flank. Once the troops who'd made initial contact came into range of my SMG squads on my reinforced left position, I couldn't find more than a square centimeter of screen not covered by tracers. It wasn't until almost the ten minute mark, after nine minutes of that intense shooting, that I saw anyone on either side get wounded!

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 4:51 pm
by the space predator
Evrybody will die a day or another :lol:

I have see in a batlle one of my man be wounded more then ten time, but he was never immobillised and he never die.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 6:11 pm
by TheKangaroo
That's hilarious. I just have to picture that like one of those 2-yards-distance firefights from The Naked Gun. Everyone shooting and nobody ever hitting anything.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:09 pm
by Legacy
They made up for it at around the 30 minute mark, when artillery killed everyone in my HQ squad. In the end, we still squished them between the two sides of my V(more of a backwards check mark) and got most of them to surrender, but one of my captains with a crappy rating anyway got wasted.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:20 pm
by the space predator
One day, my gun was rigth in front of an ennemy tank, he shoot and he misses. But the ennemy tank don't miss him :cry:

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:23 pm
by TheKangaroo
Well, I once took a defended objective with a tank crew. But that's not even half as hilarious as a 30min fight without any effect. By the way, I tried a Chinese campaign myself once. To me it seemed rather inevitable to get killed with a bad rating.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 2:22 am
by Legacy
TheKangaroo wrote:Well, I once took a defended objective with a tank crew. But that's not even half as hilarious as a 30min fight without any effect. By the way, I tried a Chinese campaign myself once. To me it seemed rather inevitable to get killed with a bad rating.
Captain Han would agree with you, but...

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 5:06 pm
by the space predator
But...?

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 11:07 am
by TheKangaroo
But he's unavailable since he is attending a funeral.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 12:28 pm
by Legacy
And not from the cheap seats, either.

Re: It's NOT a good day to die...

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:39 pm
by Newsparta
Legacy wrote:It wasn't until almost the ten minute mark, after nine minutes of that intense shooting, that I saw anyone on either side get wounded!
Yea, the accuracy in the game seems slightly to inaccurate to be realistic, thats one thing i hope Sean fixes is beef the accuracy a bit

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:37 pm
by Legacy
Actually, I'd say this game is fairly liberal on the estimate of accuracy. Heck, in most real firefights, considerably fewer than half the troops fired their weapons in WW2.

If you think about the number of rounds fired in a typical battle in game, versus a real company-size engagement, versus the number that actually hit something that can be classified as a target, we've got impressive accuracy in game.

The only think increasing it would do is to make the battles quicker, it wouldn't really change the dynamics in any other way, I don't think.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 11:01 pm
by the space predator
Accuracy need some minor correction

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 12:49 am
by Andy Brown
A quick Google informs me that, during WW2, around 25,000 rounds of small arms ammuntion had to be fired for every small arms kill. By the time of the Vietnam War, apparently, this had at least doubled (due to the increase in the number of auto and semi-automatic weapons on the battlefield) and some sources say Vietnam required as many as 200,000 small-arms rounds per kill.

I personally don't think there's anything wrong with Firefight's accuracy.

I don't see how you can make battles quicker without changing the feel and balance of the game (unless you're talking about some sort of time-compression feature when troops are out of contact?).

Andy

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 2:10 pm
by Legacy
It would be kind of interesting to have a sort of "fast forward" or double time button like the Total War games do. I often use it during the endphase, where I'm slaughtering routers, or early on while waiting for contact in M:TW and R:TW.