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Nice job on 4.0! A few bugs I've found

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Nice job on 4.0! A few bugs I've found

Postby daehttub_2000 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:52 pm

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'Latest News'?

Postby Fenris » Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:23 am

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Postby Sean OConnor » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:06 am

Thanks for spotting those bugs and I think I've got them all corrected. Version 4.0 wasn't out when daehttub_2000 posted that message, but I have just released it now - it's basically the same as 3.99v but with those tank bugs fixed.

BTW the friendly troops aren't really routing, they're just getting out of the way.
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Documentation nit; turret front armor specs?

Postby Fenris » Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:22 pm

The table of tanks in the documentation lists the Jagdpanther as having the same 75mm cannon as the turreted PzV, but the data file correctly specifies the 88L71.

Leafing through the data files, one thing that bothers me is that the ArmorTurretFront setting seems to be very high for the vehicles I've checked (e.g. M4A3 -- 165mm @ 60deg, Pzkfw VI.B 280@81, Pzkfw V.G 210@79). The armor thicknesses for other locations seem normal too me, but the M4A3 turret front I was expecting to be more like 75mm, the Pzkfw VI.B more like either 180mm/9 deg (Krupp turret) or 60-100mm/variable (Porsche turret -- curved), and the Pzkfw V.G more like 110mm.

Another spot check, Pzkfw IV.J, shows a normal turret front armor thickness of 50@80, which is reasonably similar to the 50@11 I'm seeing on 'Achtung Panzer!', if one assumes an orthogonal definition of angle. Churchill turret front armor is set at 89@90, which is ballpark IIRC... So it's not just an across-the-board overestimate AFAICT.

Is this to account for something else, such as face-hardening, manufacturing issues, or what-not (although an M4A3 turret better armored than a Churchill turret seems odd...)?
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Postby Andy Brown » Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:14 am

My impression is that the front turret armour of most tanks in the game adds in the gun mantlet as well.

In some cases, this is justified, in others, less so. I'm not an armour expert so I couldn't say which is which.

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