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Beta version of new Slay ready for testing!

Conquer the island

Postby Fusion_power » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:42 am

As an interesting aside, I've been able to beat 2 islands with nothing except peons and spearmen. It is an interesting way to play to never build a knight or baron and yet still win the game.

Cufi was one of the islands, I don't remember the other

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Postby Fusion_power » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:10 pm

Sean, One item that is extremely awkward is the way the "New Challenge Game" code works. If I have an island started and click File: New Challenge Game, it currently prompts for an island name and allows use of the left and right scroll arrows to select an island. The problem is that it can take a very long time to scroll from the beginning to the ending of the possible islands. My suggestion is to replace this screen with the main island display screen where you can quickly and easily pick an island. If you choose not to do this, the minimum would be to set the left and right arrows so they will auto repeat if the key is held down.

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Postby Wrinkly » Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:22 pm

In the latest version I find the colours dull and the contrast is not sharp,
the larger size is most welcome though.
I find selecting a player fiddly as you have to click on the players hexagon and not the piece itself. This may come easier with practice.
Athough the gameplay is essentially the same, the cosmetic changes made seems a bit like gilding the Lily.
I have been playing Slay often for years and have kept all the versions. Whatever the technical advances I still prefer versions 5 and 6.
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Postby Fusion_power » Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:25 am

Sean, I have one more item that I think would be best if changed. It has to do with the way the graphs work.

The best way to play the beta version is by using the "swiss cheese" method of cutting an opponent up into individual hexes. This leaves a huge number of hexes on the island for a given player but they don't have an attached capitol.

The key is that a graph is displayed so long as there is a capitol for that player. If all capitols are destroyed, then that player is out of the game no matter what and should no longer be displayed in the graphs. This is not the way it works at present. So long as there are 5 or more hexes for a player, then that player is on the graph. Please consider changing the code so that once there are no more capitols, the graphs are cleared for that player.

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Re: Beta version of new Slay ready for testing!

Postby ajax » Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:44 pm

-a weird ">_" is appearing under "A new game has begun" in network games



This is an improvement to the Danish translation, with additional translations and danish spell check.

Some translations are IMO best keept in english like the yes-no-cancel,on/off,connected,disconnected,forward,timed out, and

more as thats what we are all comfortable with.




Here is stuff Im not sure about
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5101:Indregistrere

(should be)

5101:Indregistrer (comment:If this is supposed to be Buy, its better with: Køb)


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Here is the result:
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////////////////////////////
// Slay
// Language = Danish
//
// by Klaus Rehkopff
//
////////////////////////////

// translator's name
0000:Klaus Rehkopff

// button text
1000:OK
1001:Annuller
1002:Begynd
1003:Indlæring
1004:Afslut tur
1005:Ja
1006:Nej
1007:Stop Netværksspil

// high score table screen
2100:Sværhed
2101:Størrelse
2110:Forrige side
2111:Næste side
2200:Dage
2201:Tab
2202:Tab

// main window's title
3000:Serving on
3001:Ø
3002:I dag

// words on the main screen
3100:Opsparing
3101:Indkomst
3102:Lønninger
3103:Balance
3104:Overskud
3110:Game Over

// network messages
4001:En anden med samme netværksnummer er allerede på\n nettet. For at købe flere licenser besøg:\n\n http://www.windowsgames.co.uk
4002:Serveren er stoppet
4006:Der var ikke fundet nogen server på den adresse.
4007:Din version af Slay er inkompatibel med serverens version \nVenligst hent den seneste version!
4010:Du er p.t. vært for et netværksspil\n\nEr du sikker på du vil lukke spillet?
4011:Er du sikker på du vil stoppe netværksforbindelsen?
4020:Du skal være mere end én person for at spille\net netværks spil!
4030:Netværks besked
4040:'s forbindelse er afbrudt

// chat box text
4500:Chat
4510:>>> Connected
4511:has connected
4520:<<< Disconnected
4521:has disconnected
4530:>>> Failed Connection
4531:forsøgte at forbinde med en kopieret licens nummer
4532:forsøgte at forbinde med en inkompatibel version
4540:Timed Out
4541:har opgivet
4550:Et nyt spil et begyndt
4551:Nyt spil...
4560:Erkend nederlag
4561:har erkendt nederlaget
4570:Sejr!
4571:vinder spillet!
4572:Computeren vinder spillet!
4600:sagde
4610:indtaster...

// tip dialog box
5000:Tip...
5010:Du kan ikke flytte en brik til en by eller et slot.
5011:Du kan ikke flytte så mange brikker sammen.
5012:Du kan ikke flytte brikker i havet.
5013:Du kan kun placere et slot i det territorie hvorfra du købte det.
5014:Du kan kun placere et slot på en tom hexagon.
5015:Hexagonen er for godt beskyttet til at du kan angribe den.
5016:Du kan kun flytte en brik inden for det territorie der købte brikken.
5017:Dette er ikke dit territorie.\n\nPrøv at klikke på et hus med et flag, derfra kan du købe bønder og slotte fra Informations vinduet.
5018:Denne brik har allerede flyttet.\nKun de brikker der hopper kan flyttes.
5030:Fortsæt med at vise tips?

// about dialog box
5100:Om
5101:Indregistrer
5102:Regler

// new game dialog box
5200:Nyt udfordrende spil
5201:Nyt venligt spil
5202:Nyt Netværks spil
5204:Antallet af øer
5205:eller
5206:Andre kort
5207:Antallet af spillere
5208:Spillere
5209:Mennesker
5210:Computer intelligens
5211:Tids begrænsning
5212:minut(ter) pr. tur
5213:Øens navn
5230:Meget dum
5231:Dum
5232:Klog
5233:Meget klog

// new network game dialog box
5300:Dine detaljer
5301:Indtast dit navn
5302:Vælg din farve
5303:Skift...

5310:Start et netværksspil
5311:Gør dette netværksspil offentligt
5312:Start spil
5313:Din IP adresse er:
5314:Port:
5315:Spil selv i dette spil

5320:Forbind til et netværksspil
5321:Det private spils IP adresse
5322:Offentlige spil
5323:Forbind

5330:Du skal indtaste et navn
5331:Du skal enten indtaste et privat spils IP adresse\neller vælge én af de offentlige spil
5332:Spil-serveren du forsøger at forbinde med\nkører med en forældet software version.
5333:Det ser ud til din computer er bag en router.\n\nDu skal sikre dig, at din router forwardér data til Slay's\nport-nummer til din computer, ellers vil andre kunne se din \ncomputer i lobbyens liste, men vil ikke kunne forbinde til dig!
5334:Forbindelsen til lobbyen fejlede.\n\nEnten er din forbindelse fejlbehæftet eller\nlobbyen er midlertidigt nede. Venligst prøv senere!

5350:Vælg farve
5360:Rød
5361:Grøn
5362:Blå
5363:Lysintensitet
5370:HTML Farver

// enter your license number dialog box
5400:Netværks Licens Nummer
5401:Indtast dit netværks licens nummer
5402:Du burde have modtaget dit licens nummer da du indregistrede spillet. Ellers bedes du kontakte:\n\n sean@windowsgames.co.uk
5403:Netværksspil er gjort klar
5404:Forkert licens-nummer

// waiting for clients dialog box
5500:Klik på "Start" knappen når alle spillere er forbundet
5501:Spillere forbundet

// waiting for server dialog box
5600:Venter på serveren
5601:Venter på at serveren starter spillet...

// graph dialog box
5700:Grafik
5701:Land
5702:Indkomst
5703:Mænd
5704:Størst
5705:Lønninger
5710:Intet spil i gang
5711:Det er stadig første dag!

// map editor dialog box
5800:Kort redigering
5801:Du har rettet i kortet. Vil\ndu gemme det?
5802:Brug venstre museknap til at lave land
5803:Brug højre museknap til at fjerne land
5804:Dette kort kan ikke bruges da det enten:\n\n- er for lille\n- ikke er lavet af enkle øer
5805:Dette kort kan ikke bruges da det enten:\n\n- er for lille\n- ikke er lavet af enkle øer\n\nVil du stadig gemme det?
5806:Du kan lave dine egne kort i denne demo version men du\nbehøver den fulde version for at bruge dem. Vil du\ngå til:\n\n http://www.windowsgames.co.uk\n\nfor at købe en fuld version?

// victory dialog box
5900:Sejr på
5901:dage
5902:Har vundet spillet!

// text from message boxes
6000:Gem nuværende spil?
6001:Er du sikker på du vil overgive dig?
6002:Er du sikker på du vil genstarte?
6003:Du skal købe en fuld version af spillet for at spille netværk\nspil. Se\n\n http://www.windowsgames.co.uk\n\nVil du gå dertil nu?
6004:Du holder en brik
6005:Du har stadig brikker der kan rykke
6006:Du har stadig territorier der kan købe mænd
6007:Du holder en brik
6008:Er du sikker på du vil afslutte din tur?
6009:Du kan kun klikke på de første
6010:øer i shareware\nversionen. For at købe en fuld version, gå til:\n\n http://www.windowsgames.co.uk\n\nVil du gå dertil nu?
6011:Acceptere du en anden spiller overgiver sig?
6012:Dette spil er ødelagt eller forældet
6013:Kan ikke finde nogen .thm filer!
6014:Kan ikke finde den .thm file
6015:Kan ikke hente grafikfilen
6016:Kan ikke gemme sejr
6017:Kan ikke gemme muligheder
6018:Kan ikke gemme nuværende situation
6019:Kan ikke finde nogen sprog filer
6020:Er du sikker på du vil fortryde alle bevægelser?

// tutorial dialog box
7000:Indlærings skridt
7001:Slut
7002:Næste >>
7003:<< Tilbage

7100:Øen
7101:Når du starter, er øen delt op mellem de seks spillere.
7102:Tilstødende hexagoner af samme farve udgør 'territorier' og hvert territorie som er større end en hexagon har en 'hovedstad'.
7103:Ved din tur vil hver hovedstad, der har penge nok til at købe nye bønder eller slotte have et flag.
7104:For at vælge et territorie skal du blot klikke på det.

7200:Penge
7201:Hvis du klikker på et territorie kan du se dets økonomiske situation i Info vinduet.
7202:Dette viser hvor mange penge der er overført fra sidste runde, hvor meget det har tjent denne gang (én, for hver hexagon der ikke har et træ på sig), hvor meget det bruger på lønninger og balancen.
7203:Du kan købe (10 for en bonde, 15 for et slot) hvis du har nok penge. Bare klik på bonden eller slottet som du vil købe.

7300:Indkøb
7301:Når du har købt en bonde kan du placere ham i en tom hexagon indenfor det territorie du købte ham fra.
7302:Han vil hoppe op og ned for at vise han stadig kan flyttes til en tom hexagon inden for territoriet.
7303:Hvis du placerer ham på et træ i eget territorie vil han fælde træet og stopper med at hoppe for at vise hans tur er slut og at han ikke kan flyttes igen.
7304:At fælde et træ, er en god ide, da du ellers ikke tjener penge på denne hexagon.

7400:Angreb
7401:Du kan vinde hexagoner tilstødende dit eget territorie, så længe de ikke er beskyttet af fjendtlige brikker.
7402:Brikker (Hovedstader, slotte og bønder) beskytter alle hexagoner som støder op til dem.
7403:Hvis du prøver at flytte til en hexagon der er beskyttet, vil du se et udråbstegn fra den brik som udfører beskyttelsen.

7500:Samle Territorier
7501:Hvis du vinder en hexagon som støder sammen med to af dine territorier vil den ene hovedstad forsvinde og alle pengene blive samlet i den anden hovedstad.
7502:Det er en meget god ide at samle sine territorier, da de samlet er stærkere end hver for sig.

7600:Kombinere bønder
7601:Du kan lave stærkere bønder, ved at putte en oven i en anden.
7602:Dette vil lave en 'angrebsspids' som er stærk nok til at angribe en bonde eller en hovedstad (eller de hexagoner som de beskytter).
7603:Tilføres endnu en bonde til en angrebsspids, laves en Ridder som er stærk nok til at angribe en bonde, angrebsspids, hovedstad eller et slot (eller de hexagoner de beskytter).
7604:Tilføjes yderligere en bonde laves en Baron som er stærk nok til at angribe alt andet en andre baroner (eller de hexgoner der er beskyttet af andre baroner).

7700:Konkurs
7701:At kombinere bønderne har en stor ulempe - de er meget dyrere at holde.
7702:En bonde koster 2 pr. runde, en angrebsspids 6, en ridder 18 og en baron 54.
7703:Hvis du ved din turs start ikke har råd til alle dine mænd vil de dø og blive til gravstene.
7704:At samme grund er det en god ide at dele fjendes territorier i to, så nogen af dem går konkurs.

7800:Afslut tur
7801:Når du er færdig med at købe, flytte og angribe skal du klikke på "Afslut tur" knappen.
7802:Computeren vil lave runderne for de andre deltagere og når det bliver din tur, vil træer være vokset op på dine hexagoner (palmer langs kysten, alm. træer på hexagoner som støder op til andre træer)
7803:og hver territorie vil tjene sine penge.

// shareware version dialog box
8000:Tak!
8100:Tak fordi du spillede!
8101:vil du købe den fulde version som lader dig
8102:spille alle 10.000 øer, konstruere dine egne
8103:øer og spille spil over Internettet?
8110:(eller tilsvarende i din egen valuta)

// menu items
9000:&Filer
9001:&Bevægelser
9002:&Muligheder
9003:&Hjælp

9100:&Nyt udfordrende spil...\tCtrl+N
9101:Nyt &venligt spil...\tCtrl+F
9102:Nyt net&værksspil...\tCtrl+W
9103:&Åben...\tCtrl+O
9104:&Gem\tCtrl+S
9105:Gem &som...
9106:&Genstart...\tCtrl+R
9107:Overgiv dig...\tCtrl+E
9108:Kort redigering...\tCtrl+M
9109:Slut
9120:Stop net&værksspil...

9200:&Fortryd\tCtrl+Z
9201:&Automatisk flyt\tCtrl+M
9202:Slut &tur\tCtrl+T
9203:Fortryd &alt\tCtrl+A
9204:Genskab\tCtrl+Y
9205:Genskab &alt\tCtrl+L

9300:Sprog
9301:Farver
9302:Temaer
9303:Spillets lyde
9304:&Netværks lyde
9305:Vis &advarsler ved slut af tur
9306:&Vis gode ideer
9307:Vis &grafik
9308:&Genskab vinduets størrelse
9309:Vis angribelige hexagoner

9400:&Instruktioner
9401:&Indlæring
9402:Slay &hjemmeside
9403:&Få flere temaer
9404:Få flere &øer
9405:Se &flere spil
9406:&Om

9500:Standard tema
9501:Klassisk
9502:Lys
9503:Mørk
9504:Sort/hvid
9505:Pasteler
9506:Regnbue
9507:Høj kontrast
9508:Tydelig forskel
9509:LCD Skærm

// menu items for the Map Editor dialog box
9600:&Ny
9601:&Åben...
9602:&Gem
9603:Gem &som...
9604:&Slut

// tooltips
9900:Nyt udfordrende spil
9901:Nyt venligt spil
9902:Nyt netværksspil
9903:Åben
9904:Gem
9905:Overgiv dig
9906:Genstart
9907:Lyd on/off
9908:Fortryd alt
9909:Fortryd
9910:Genskab
9911:Genskab alt

9920:Vælg grafik

9930:Vælg øernes rækkefølge
9931:Åben et hjælpevindue
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Re: Beta version of new Slay ready for testing!

Postby Liquid Egg Product » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:10 am

Very cool. The AI seems to be beefed up offensively and take out castles in one turn a bit more often. I have to be more conservative in the endgame if there are more than one large rival remaining.

The AI is still is not very good at protecting itself. Granted, that's probably a good thing from a player enjoyment point of view. It keeps the game flow more dynamic and allows humans to overcome disadvantageous starting positions.

Maybe you've considered something like this, but it might be interesting to have a "defensive" and "offensive" AI. The offensive would behave the same as it does currently. The defensive AI would be the same until it is handling a territory that's 20 or 22 hexes...then it would favor castles instead of units, and try to gain small amounts of territory using a knight + one or two peasants.

But that would be a bonus; programming AI is not easy.
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Re: Beta version of new Slay ready for testing!

Postby Liquid Egg Product » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:19 am

One other thing: is there anyway the end turn hotkey can be changed? A couple times, I have meant to press "Ctrl + T" then "Enter" to continue, but accidentally hit "Ctrl + R" to restart instead.

Since end turn is so frequently used, maybe just "T" would be sufficient.
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Re: Beta version of new Slay ready for testing!

Postby Hephi » Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:32 pm

Hi there, I was delighted to see that there is an improvement version in the works. I've been playing Slay for ages and could possible do it with my eyes closed surrounded by fast growing palm trees.

My first impressions after two games of the beta.
- I turned off the sound almost immediately. I like a short and silent 'argh' much more then a long 'ieeeeeeeeeee' every turn. Also the chopping doesn't add to the experience imo. I could not find the options to change any of the sounds, maybe to use some sort of 'Vanilla' sounds.
- I quickly started looking for a place to turn off the warning you get when ending your turn. I DO know that I have people not moving or money left over, I DON'T need a reminder every turn. Where can I turn this off?
- It became obvious that the AI now cuts and does so very often. (leaving him to be cut himself most of the time) I haven't played enough to see if this makes it harder or more challenging but I think any improvement on AI is always good.
- Graphics have been improved but this comes with a negative as well. The board looks more cluttered because the guys are bigger compared to the squares as they used to be.

My conclusion (after only two games) is that I would rather like to play the old Slay with the new AI for a while longer until the beta has easy options for tuning the sound and graphics more to what I like.
Either way, thumbs up for making this Sean and Slay rules!

Oh and I like the scoreboard sorting on size and difficulty but I can't see which islands I have done on what level and in how many turns :(
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Bug in Beta #21

Postby slay_addicted » Mon May 13, 2013 7:57 pm

Hello Sean,

i just encountered a hang/freeze issue.
While holding a soldier in hand to place it somewhere my screen went dark and Java asked for admin-rights.
After denying those rights to java and returning to the game the graphics part of the game was visually not changed but no longer responded.

The file/move/Options/help - menu was still browseable but didn't respond to ingame actions and the graphic didn't respond any longer.
The file/exit button finally worked as expected.

Basic System specs:
-Windows 8 x64 (fully patched)

Graphics related
-amd eyefinity mode with 3 screens active (sometimes problematic when gaming)

for more info please feel free to I.M./mail me

btw...Thx for maintaining slay for so long, after more than 10 years i'm still addicted ;)
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Re: Beta version of new Slay ready for testing!

Postby pmcnabb » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:19 pm

I've been playing Slay for a long time, 10 years or more I think. Here are my impressions of the beta version.

My first reaction was disappointment. Overall the interface is nicer and easier to use, but the game now is harder to play because the board is much, much harder to examine. Because we are looking at it in 3-D at an angle instead of straight down in 2-D, each piece is actually on two hexes and pieces partially cover other pieces. This is a much harder thing to look at, similar to trying to play chess while looking at the board at a 20 or 30-degree angle. I found that I had to actually study the board to see moves. To be honest, if I were presented with this today, I would not buy it (as I have twice already). The entire time I felt I was looking at a fuzzy, messy image. It made me and my eyes tired to play it.

Currently I play Slay about 15-20 times per day. With this new version, I probably would play 2 or 3 times a week simply because it has shifted from being a game entirely of strategy to one that rewards staring at the board to make sure that you have caught all the obscured potential moves.

I will not be upgrading until there is an option to get rid of the fancy graphics and go back to the older, cleaner look.

But as a computer engineering professional myself, I understand the draw to try to "improve" the look and feel by adding images that are more complex and "realistic."
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Re: Beta version of new Slay ready for testing!

Postby pmcnabb » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:26 pm

I should add that I think the first version of Slay I bought was Version 3.x. I mostly play on 4.2. But on another machine I have a newer version that I got only about 2 months ago. So when did Slay 4.0 come out?
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Re: Beta version of new Slay ready for testing!

Postby adam1942 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:19 pm

Hi Sean,

This latest version is much better - I like the graphics a lot better good job :)

Cheers,
Adam.
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Re: Beta version of new Slay ready for testing!

Postby Night2 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:35 am

Hi, I just installed beta on 2013/12/31 and it has expired as soon as my computer date changed to 2014/01/01, how can I fix this?
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Re: Beta version of new Slay ready for testing!

Postby Quark » Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:30 pm

For those of us that had it installed for over a year now it also expired; still reported as beta. I haven't seen much from Sean on Slay this past year (haven't looked either). I'm hoping Sean provides an updated Slay6 before my withdrawal symptoms start :shock: Oh, and the server-provided game hasn't worked for me for many months; I presume others see same result.
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Re: Beta version of new Slay ready for testing!

Postby Fusion_power » Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:10 am

The beta version is expired Sean. Do you have a permanent update ready to go?

Thanks,
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