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Copyright Issues

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:54 pm
by vrda
Hi Sean

I am wondering have you had to deal with any copyright issues about Conquest, since Risk is now intellectual property of Hasbro Interactive ?

My friend and I have also been working on a software adaptation of a famous board game and we are just not sure will the copyright laws compel us not to publish our game, although, the game itself is basically different than the original one ? much like Conquest and Risk.

We would appreciate if you could share your experience with us, since your project Conquest has many similarities to our case and we are not sure how much would it cost us to pay a license fee to the original idea owner, if you had to do so with Conquest.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:03 pm
by joshua_tree
Yeah, I've heard about Risk too, but I've thinks it's free ...something like chess or pool ...God damn it!!! I think it's found by Chinisse 5000 years ago ;-P.

But with little investigation I've found that in the mid 50's of last century, the Risk is invented by some Bro's Brothers. After they've
sold it for the few decades they sell the licence to the Hasbro company. ( It's protected now, by the U.S. Patent ).

Sean, is it true that you haven't paid any licence fee to the Hasbro?

Man, what you think if one ( of many ) of they lawyers could visit you in UK?

Jeezzzz. You're broke man. You'll be jailed man!!!

Or maybe the Queen of England will save you ass? ;-)

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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:28 pm
by Sean OConnor
You can't copyright a game idea. See:

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl108.html

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:41 pm
by braziliano
I don't know about copyright, but in Brazil have a similar board game, it name is WAR.

http://www.grow.com.br/produtos/jogos_adulto.htm

Official WAR on-line game: http://www.gametrack.com.br/

Copyright and the law.

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:16 pm
by BlueHippo
Hi Guys,

Sean is right, you can't copyright an idea. Copyright is automatic for an original board-game! Anyone copying it runs the risk of infringement under Intellectual Property law.

The website Sean has directed you to is of limited use as it only shows a one page document. For detailed advice on copyright go to;

http://www.intellectual-property.gov.uk

Whether or not Sean's version of Hasbro's RISK and STRATEGO is legal is open to discussion.

I will say this. Since I wrote to Sean and said I thought 'End of Atlantis' contravined the copyright of my board game ESCAPE fro ATLANTIS!, he has changed his CD version from an island game to a space game. I welcome this. Whether this 'adjustment' to the game is sufficient to circumvent the law we shall see.

Hope this clarifies,

Blue Hippo :D
Any queries pm me!

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:41 pm
by Sean OConnor
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one Julian. The UK IP page spells it out quite clearly in my opinion:

"However, copyright does not protect ideas, or such things as names or titles."

Copyright only protects written text, artwork, photographs etc... and not ideas.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:08 am
by Brice Manuel
Copyright is automatic for an original board-game!
On planet Earth and under International Copyright law, you cannot copyright an idea, title or ruleset to a game. You can only copyright artwork, box design and documentation. There are thousands of Risk and Stratego clones out there for the computer, I even have some dating back to the 70s.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:36 am
by Andy
is this whole forum degenerating into copyright??? maybe we should get a resident lawyer....

theres a resident evil joke in there somewhere, but im much asleep and cant quite figure it out, any ideas??? (for GAWDS SAKE change the bloody convo!!!)
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Re: Copyright and the law.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:12 am
by sid6.7
BlueHippo wrote:Hi Guys,

Sean is right, you can't copyright an idea. Copyright is automatic for an original board-game! Anyone copying it runs the risk of infringement under Intellectual Property law.

The website Sean has directed you to is of limited use as it only shows a one page document. For detailed advice on copyright go to;

http://www.intellectual-property.gov.uk

Whether or not Sean's version of Hasbro's RISK and STRATEGO is legal is open to discussion.

I will say this. Since I wrote to Sean and said I thought 'End of Atlantis' contravined the copyright of my board game ESCAPE fro ATLANTIS!, he has changed his CD version from an island game to a space game. I welcome this. Whether this 'adjustment' to the game is sufficient to circumvent the law we shall see.

Hope this clarifies,

Blue Hippo :D
Any queries pm me!


i normally dont use langauge like this nor get this angry
but its a continuing harrassment of these games and forum
soo......

i'll get in trouble for this im sure...sorry sean...:(

its in my personal opinion your an *&^%$#@ julian...

and i hereby release the copyright to that statement...

any one can use it to call him the same thing... :twisted:

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:47 am
by qwas
braziliano wrote:I don't know about copyright, but in Brazil have a similar board game, it name is WAR.

http://www.grow.com.br/produtos/jogos_adulto.htm

Official WAR on-line game: http://www.gametrack.com.br/


Funny, I once started planning a board game called War, but it got too complex for me so I didnt get started.

How about an on-line game?

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:26 pm
by Synovio
I been playin' against the computer but I'd be happy ta' play on-line with some folks..I can be contacted at:

Synovio@comcast.net

If you want to play let me know when you are available to play. Three or four would be nice..I been tryin' ta' get some buddies ta' buy this game as we all played Risk years ago an' this is better..but so far, no takers..I don't understand it..it's so awesome! It's the best 20 dollars I ever spent!
Could it be everyone knows how good I am at this game?

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:06 am
by sid6.7
go here to join a email list

www.cruzan.info

goto hobby link
goto conquest link

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:02 pm
by qwas
Brice Manuel wrote:
Copyright is automatic for an original board-game!
On planet Earth and under International Copyright law, you cannot copyright an idea, title or ruleset to a game. You can only copyright artwork, box design and documentation. There are thousands of Risk and Stratego clones out there for the computer, I even have some dating back to the 70s.


What about on Mars? :lol:

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:17 pm
by TheKangaroo
As far as I know the 'space-treaty' also does only prevent nations and organizations from claiming to own other planets so I therefor declare myself King of Mars...

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:35 am
by BoxZone_Author
I therefor declare myself King of Mars...

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You're too late I'm afraid.
Every major body in our solar system has already been claimed by somebody. Of-course no-one takes them seriously...