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How old is this game?

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:59 pm
by di96
I played a game years ago, early-mid 90's that was called conqest, which played almost the same as this one. The free map was different, and you could move you armies after your attack turn freely to setup your defense (if I remember correctly).


Is this the same game? Made by the same person? Anyone know what map was around way back then? I really liked it, and want to play it some more!

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:02 am
by lancerunolfsson
No this is not the same conquest if you are thinking of the conquest I have in mind. That conquest let you play around with the rules a lot. Ironically the best version of that game was one of the last DOS releases. The windows versions were not as good. Treid to register it but the guy disapeared. If I could find it I would register in a heartbeat (the DOS version).

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:46 pm
by Sean OConnor
My first version was July 2001. See:

http://www.windowsgames.co.uk/conquestHistory.html

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:02 pm
by vrda
Hi

The Risk game idea is approximately 50 years old.
The original was made by the Parker Brothers and it's
now registered to the Hasbro Interactive.

Sean has never answered my question about this issue. Guess he hasn't tought much of the legal stuff when he decided to steel someones elses idea and have some money earned as well while doing it !
________
Lewis Veraldi

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:27 pm
by Sean OConnor
Sean has never answered my question about this issue. Guess he hasn't tought much of the legal stuff when he decided to steel someones elses idea and have some money earned as well while doing it !


You can't copyright a game idea. See:

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl108.html

Copyright and the law.

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:17 pm
by BlueHippo
Hi Guys,

Sean is right, you can't copyright an idea. Copyright is automatic for an original board-game! Anyone copying it runs the risk of infringement under Intellectual Property law.

The website Sean has directed you to is of limited use as it only shows a one page document. For detailed advice on copyright go to;

http://www.intellectual-property.gov.uk

Whether or not Sean's version of Hasbro's RISK and STRATEGO is legal is open to discussion.

I will say this. Since I wrote to Sean and said I thought 'End of Atlantis' contravined the copyright of my board game ESCAPE fro ATLANTIS!, he has changed his CD version from an island game to a space game. I welcome this. Whether this 'adjustment' to the game is sufficient to circumvent the law we shall see.

Hope this clarifies,

Blue Hippo :D
Any queries pm me!

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:42 pm
by Sean OConnor
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one Julian. The UK IP page spells it out quite clearly in my opinion:

"However, copyright does not protect ideas, or such things as names or titles."

Copyright only protects written text, artwork, photographs etc... and not ideas.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:42 am
by Brice Manuel
http://www.intellectual-property.gov.uk
If you go to that link, it says:

"Copyright could also protect the rules, but only the expression of the rules [documentation], not the ideas behind them [ruleset]"

"Schemes, rules or methods for playing a game are specifically excluded from patenting."

The website Sean has directed you to is of limited use
What he linked to IS International Copyright Law and upheld in the US, UK and most other members of the UN.

Unfortunately, you have people like Julian who ignore the law and think they are above it and that the law does not apply to them.

Hmm... I think I might will make a "survive" clone just because Julian is such a pleasant fellow.