2 modes -- resurrect dead or not

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Should there be 2 playing modes with seperate roll of honors? One is the same as now, the other one allows player to reload/resurrect saved game.

Yes
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No
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I don't care
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Maybe
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Post by the space predator » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:23 pm

for me, it happend every time.
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Post by TheKangaroo » Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:00 pm

Interestingly it never happened to me ever. Are you sure those were active missiles?

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Post by Fusion_power » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:09 pm

Probably should define 'active missile'. This is a missile that is still capable of accelerating. The daycorn can steer for 2 turns. The Plectron can accelerate for 3 turns. If any missile is still capable of steering, then the mission does not end. One of the more interesting quirks is that you can be killed by a stray missile even after mission end. You can't steer your ship for 5 turns after mission end and during that interval, if you run into a stray missile, you can be killed.

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2 modes

Post by Schroeder2593 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:18 pm

Whats the point of trying to play CM if the commander gets killed (it happens a lot), and you have go all the way back to start of the game, even if your a hundred missions in to the game? I mean, its frustrating!

I can definitely understand though what Sean was saying about constant saving being tedious; being able to save all the time in some games takes the fun out of them.

But, imagine other games, such Tomb Raider or Duke Nukem without the save and auto save features. They would be almost impossible to finish!

What I have in mind is the best both worlds. An auto save feature that saves your game every few(5-10) missions. This way the game is still challenging but isn't frustrating!
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Post by the space predator » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:33 pm

and each time you receive a promotion.

but I still think that this should be optional.
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Post by Schroeder2593 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:57 pm

but I still think that this should be optional.


I was thinking that the auto save feature could be toggled on and off.
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Post by Sketchy » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:02 am

No, No, No!
Of course Tomb Raider and Duke Nukem would be almost impossible to finish without saving - but in Critical Mass there is no finish - the sole aim is to survive for as long as possible, and in doing so, gain as many medals as possible.
It is far more comparable to something like Tetris, Pinball, Rogue, or any old arcade game - and imagine how pointless those would be if you could save your game part way through (even if it's only at 5-10 level intervals).

If you allow save games the high score board becomes irrelevant (a measure only of time spent playing, and not actual skill), and without that, what motivation is there to keep playing?

Besides, balancing risk and reward (ie. Deciding if you should eject or try and hang on for one more kill) is a skill in itself. Maybe you just need to work on that some more...
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Post by Legacy » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:18 am

Sketchy said everything I was going to. Seconding his response.
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An alternative for testing your custom ship

Post by hazenut » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:12 pm

I feel what we need is actually a quick-start mode, so you won't bother with your career. You are given sufficient money and you select one of the missions to start. Now you have instant access to your custom ships. 8)

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Post by the space predator » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:53 pm

Yes, It can be good. It will give you the possibility to fly mission for fun. To test your custom ship... Maybe it can be like in FF, you select the mission, the two nation, the difficulty, the kind of troops...
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Post by Legacy » Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:55 pm

I'd never quite thought of it that way... just have an Instant Action mode where you set all the parameters, but only play one mission.
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Post by Schroeder2593 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:16 am

After trying a couple of new strategies I found, I've decided that there really is no need for a save option. (I thought of an option to continue your game with your current amount credits you had and with your score (and possibly your rank and medals) reset to zero. I think this a good compromise; it allows everybody to have a score, medals, and rank that can't be cheated, while allowing anybody who wants to continue, to go ahead and continue with a nearly clean slate.)
When I put some more thought into these two strategies, and one I came up earlier, I designed a set of ships that are extremely though to destroy or even detect with conventional ships.
Any body that is new to critical mass and thinks that there should save option should probably look at my post for design ideas. What I have in mind is a design that uses at least 4 stealths per side, has at least 2 repair bots, and 4 command centres. Any thing that
uses those design elements in those amounts (or better) seems to survive most battles.
Also anything that uses repair bots (up to 6), a lot of command centres, and a ton shielding is almost invicible.

If I can I'll post pictures of the ships I designed at some point.
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Post by Schroeder2593 » Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:31 am

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Post by TheKangaroo » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:44 pm

Aren't those ships awfully expensive to acquire, thus requiring you to be successful before even getting them?

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Post by Sketchy » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:14 pm

I see someone's been using the ship file editor.
They're good looking ships, but I think there are a few problems...

16 stealth units is far too many - you'd be much better of spending the credits on missiles/launchers/etc.
Stealth units are not directional like scanners are - it makes absolutely no difference which side you put them on.
Also, the more stealth units you have, the less effective they are.
eg. When you add a second stealth unit, it reduces your ship's minimum detection range by 20%, but by the time you add the 20th, it reduces the detection range by just 4%.

I don't like your choice of missiles - Daycorns and Plectrons are much better (Geenees and Oriks are the worst missiles in the game).

There's no point having all those command centres and repair bots on the more expensive ships, as they already have more than enough shields.
In spite of having all those thrusters, the ships are still slow and cumbersome, because they are too heavy (repair bots weigh twice as much as other components). Only the Cryptor has acceptable agility.
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