Additional ranks : needed?

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Additional ranks: do you think some are needed?

Poll ended at Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:13 pm

Yes, I think additional ranks are DEFINITELY NEEDED
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28%
I think additional ranks MIGHT BE USEFUL
10
56%
No, I just see NO USE for additional ranks
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17%
 
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Additional ranks : needed?

Post by Fuzzy Wonky » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:13 pm

Well, I know the topic isn't new but I?ve been wondering about it for a while and now I?m sure I?d really like to have additional ranks (may be one under Lieutenant, and two over Admiral).
WHY ADDITIONAL RANKS? To give more local colour ?? Well, not only. First and mostly, I think it would allow a much better organization of custom missions enabling or not (ye know, "Minimum Rank Required" selection) .
I think something like this would do: ENSIGN ? LIEUTENANT ? MAJOR ? COMMANDER ? CAPTAIN ? COMMODORE ? VICE-ADMIRAL ? ADMIRAL ? GRAND ADMIRAL, as:
- Lieutenant seems too high when you?re just learning to fly (and this way we?d have it all moved forward one rank);
- Captain and Commodore would be inverted to follow traditional habit and logic;
- Vice-Admiral and Grand Admiral would be added to get more flexibility when enabling really difficult or less difficult custom missions (well, I know a real life Grand Admiral or so would of course but seldom get out of his office to play field pilot games with risks and so forth, but it?s just the same for Admirals anyway...).
Note: I'd pick up Grand Admiral rather than Admiral of the Fleet cause it's just shorter (would make RoHs more readable...).

What do you, guys, think ?
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Post by Bob Janova » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:29 pm

I think it would be useful to have a more graded set of missions, so yeah, good idea. We need a version where you can have more objects in play and perhaps a bigger map, though, to make high-rank missions actually possible to write.

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Post by Andy » Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:30 pm

id get annoyed with a captain being above a major, but thats just me being pedantic. the ideas good, not sure how it works at the moment - do the ranks follow a naval or air force type theme?? or is it just a mish-mash of ranks that sound good???
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Post by Garnier » Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:56 pm

It looks to me like a mishmash of ranks, but I dont know.

I'd make the ranks like this:
Ensign
Sergeant
Lieutenant
Captain
Major
Commander
Commodore
Rear-Admiral
Admiral
Grand Admiral
And then as the super-hard-to-reach rank, Emperor

Emperor could be one where you have to have like 200 or 300 successes, 1000 credits in your fleet, 20 GCs and stuff like that, so its basically the ultimate honor that isnt usually attained.

Another hugely important thing I think, would be to get more ships for the AI to use. When they stop at warrior class, and I can get bigger better ships, I like never die by enemy fire, and I just rack up the GCs.

We could just have a "contest" sort of thing where anyone can send in classes of four ships to Sean or someone else who would pick the best looking sets, preferably with the normal autosize and no custom colors like the standard ships now. You could change the components or tweak the ships to make good classes to come with the game. Another think I really want is the option to disable standard ships for my squadron so I can have more of my ships available.

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Post by Fuzzy Wonky » Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:51 pm

Sure it's a mishmash. Real present time Officer Ranks are as follows:

US Army & US Marine Corps & US Air Force: Second Lieutenant -- First Lieutenant ? Captain ? Major -- Lieutenant Colonel ? Colonel -- Brigadier General -- Major General -- Lieutenant General ? General -- General of the Army/ - /of the Air Force (war time only)
US Navy: Ensign -- Lieutenant junior grade ? Lieutenant -- Lieutenant Commander ? Commander -- Captain -- Rear Admiral (lower half) -- Rear Admiral (upper half) -- Vice Admiral -- Admiral -- Fleet Admiral (war time only)

British Army: Second Lieutenant -- Lieutenant -- Captain -- Major -- Lieutenant Colonel ? Colonel -- Brigadier -- Major General -- Lieutenant General -- General -- Field Marshal (war time only)
Royal Navy: Midshipman -- Sub-Lieutenant ? Lieutenant -- Lieutenant-Commander ? Commander ? Captain ? Commodore -- Rear Admiral -- Vice-Admiral ? Admiral -- Admiral of the Fleet (war time only)
Royal Air Force: Pilot Officer -- Flying Officer -- Flight Lieutenant -- Squadron Leader -- Wing Commander -- Group Captain -- Air Commodore -- Air Vice-Marshal -- Air Marshal -- Air Chief Marshal -- Marshal of the Royal Air Force (war time only)

Now let's take a look at the Swiss Papal Guard ranks... :lol: :lol:
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Post by Fuzzy Wonky » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:03 pm

Garnier wrote:And then as the super-hard-to-reach rank, Emperor.
Emperor could be one where you have to have like 200 or 300 successes, 1000 credits in your fleet, 20 GCs and stuff like that, so its basically the ultimate honor that isnt usually attained.

Emperor? :shock: Well... not a lot. Think I'd rather have "Rock'n Roll King" instead! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by drwhite7 » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:04 pm

The thing is, you start as a Lieutenant because you are already leading a squadron. It doesn't make sense for an ensign to lead a squadron so that's why you start at a higher rank.

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Post by Mangin » Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:45 am

Fuzzy Wonky wrote:Emperor? :shock:

LOL

Well that sort of fits in to the IJN hierarchy...

Ensign -> Lieutenant -> Lieutenant Commander -> Commander -> Captain -> Rear Admiral -> Vice Admiral -> Admiral -> Emperor

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Post by ima_gnu » Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:30 am

I also would like to have more of my ships available!!
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Post by Fighter_Ace » Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:12 am

Available? What do you mean by that? Open to other users?
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Post by ima_gnu » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:08 pm

Garnier wrote: Another think I really want is the option to disable standard ships for my squadron so I can have more of my ships available.
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